Why do children suffer.

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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby Pitbit » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:08 pm

Yes this story is awful.
And I believe that there are more disadvantages of such social workers than advantages.
This system does not serve the creation of the family. Introduction of legal elements in family relationships plays not cementing but disconnecting role.
Of course, social workers can not destroy a strong family. In a normal healthy family, which support normal cordial relations between husband and wife, between parents and children, children would never write denunciations for their parents. But there always may be some emotional outbursts of adults or absurd and unreasonable whims of children, that social working may use to find some basis for the application of sanctions against parents. And then the situation will be very difficult to resolve.
I still believe that this system is directed against the foundations of the family. It is used to destroy the foundations of any society, which is family.
Yea, we have a lot of abandoned, uncared-for children children. There are also frequent cases of child abuse. And with that, of course, we have to fight . But it's necessary to establish the normal operation of the structures that already exist.
Exist Trace system is a threat of destruction for normal family relations, de facto it is a ban for parents to use any penalties for educational purposes. Now traditional family life, which is based on equal partnership and respect for younger to older is being destroyed.
Using the example of Pokrovsky family we can see that healthy, good family is being deliberately destroyed. And I do not think this is a mistake.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby West1 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:34 am

It is a pity that all of us are facing such a tragedy. Yes, I suppose we can say, it is a tragedy. A whole family is under a pressure. Children are living with unfamiliar strangers. Parents are trying to do something in order to get children back. What do they get? Nothing. Only the promises that children could be with them. But these promises are on the paper. Why in reality nothing happens? Why children are still not at home. Those little sweets have to wait until the adults will solve their own problems. The problems that have no ties to kids. Cause it was somebody who wanted to break such a strong family. I bet he is pity now. If he only wants to scare, cause now the situation is already out of control. It flows by its own and nobody can influence it already. Pokrovsky family is really strong enough. They still have belief that everything will be one day on its places. I hope it will be so. I wish it to Pokrovsky family, both parents and kids.
While watching the photos, I understand that kids are unhappy now with the strangers. There is a big sorrow in their eyes. It could not be so. In the world that is full of injustice, kids should be happy. They do not have to feel such an offence. They do not have to know how difficult is and hard to live in our world. Only injustice, lie and aggression are round us. We have to fight it. Who can fight all this? Only we. What for? For our children. For our children`s happiness. Nobody, but only we can influence on the situation that has happened. The adults should solve this problem and bring children back to their family. Cause children deserve being with their parents. Children have nothing with sufferings. They are the joy of our world. They need to be warmed, loved and really cared of. Our children is our happiness, our hope in bright future. And Pokrovsky parents also want to see how they grow up, how they develop themselves, how they change every day. Parents should be near them, cause children are in need of their parents, their leaders, their examples, their protectors.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby Pitbit » Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:01 pm

West1, I do agree with you that the main tragedy is that these poor parents are missing so much. And this is uncorrectable. They have already missed so much with each of the child. School days... Weekend fun... Books that could be read together.. Common plays. So many things. These social workers have stolen not only children, but also a happiness and happy childhood. I hope children will be returned in the closest future. And parents will be able to compensate everything that was gone.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby Smorodinka » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:07 am

Parents, who are trying to invest all their wisdom and love in their children. Children, who are learning the world, where they should live, through the parental care.
And all it at once breaks. What remains? Emptiness, horror, sensation of own impotence and comprehension of the global injustice. Parent’s days of life now are filled with attempts to return sense of their life, to restore justice, to prove that it is huge mistake. Existence of children is filled by expectation of those invaluable minutes, when they can touch the most expensive people in this world, embrace them again and to feel the happiness of safety, as it was before.
If the senior child still can remember those joyful days in details, smaller kids have only elusive sensation, that these people are not strangers. Memoirs, that some time ago they filled all their days with happiness and pleasure. But system does not care.

Any system considers the person not as the personality, but as unit of some value. This unit can bring the income or a loss. In the second case this unit becomes problem. That means system has to raise its efficiency or to get rid of it.
System is not interest in emotions, feelings and cares of the future. This is superfluous. Relic of the past, which reduces efficiency and prevents achieving of maximum results. The most terrible thing is, that people in these structures so accustomed to feel themselves as a part of the system, that they no longer feel themselves the living beings. They also get used to think with the categories of system and diligently push away from themselves all humanistic and emotional. They deny their spiritual principle and learn to see the world with mechanical sensors instead of eyes.

For the time being innocent children and their unhappy parents suffer from such perception of the world. But certainly, time will come, the system will consider these members of a society outdated, demanding big investments for upgrade and will easily replace them with the new ones. The next generation is still fascinated with images of easy life, power of banknotes and fast pleasure. The moment will come. It turns out that the honourable signor is no longer needed to his master and it's time to learn to live in a new way. Everything that seemed to be important and unshakable will become only empty words and promises. The system can no longer give him anything, and there's nothing he can give her. Memory of past achievements does not warm anymore, the feeling of power and strength is lost and only emptiness is around. Now is time to realise, that the soul is still here. Badly tortured and squeezed, but it is currently alive. It still has feelings and emotions. Otherwise, why this heart is filled with such a pain and sadness?

Pain because life is spent in vain. The only accessible pleasure was satisfaction from well done work, faultlessly made schedule and a praise of the chief.
But what about the heat in the heart of communicating with loved ones, the joy of oneness with the world, the happiness of the opportunity to make someone else happy?
Unfortunately. The next life. Now it is only left sorrow, loneliness, slow fading and the feeling, that somewhere it was made not the right choice. The unenviable destiny.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby Smorodinka » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:37 am

I so hope that children will be placed in understanding adaptive families, where live intelligent people, who will not worsen a situation. Of course, no one in the world cannot be the better parent, than the native. It is clear that adaptive homes will not put as much forces, love, patience and energy in education of children, as native. But at least they should be the reasonable people, realising that children needs are much more than only clean clothes, ergonomic bed and three qualitative meals a day. Let they give the chance to children to feel confident and protected in this new house, which became their long-term haven for some strange reason.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby Smorodinka » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:32 am

It seems that someone still considers that for normal development of the child, it is enough to it to receive certain quantity of calories, a small amount of knowledge, a long sleep and the limited time spent in the open air.
Possibly, it seems to some people, that the parental love is not obligate factor of the happy childhood, which is possible to manipulate with, be played and used as a blackmail subject. That the happiness of the child is just the additional option, not the indispensable condition of a normal person’s growing.
The most terrible is that such thoughts are in heads of people, who are working directly with children, who needs the triple dose of love for harmonious development to erase the primary stress from their memories. And these poor kids are patronized with people, who do not understand paramount of love and caress for emotional pain`s healing. All these children have felt too much pain in their short lives. Usually if parents do not care, what happens to their child, they do not give him any attention, the joy of communion, a sense of security and the desire of its presence in this house. Kids do not understand what for they have come to this world, if they do not see, that someone is happy to see them. They feel themselves unnecessary, superfluous, wrong and unfortunate. How the person can grow high-grade with such a feeling? Unfortunately he is doomed to prove all his life to himself and others, that he is not a total loser. Or give up at the first failure, to accept the status of a loser and do not even attempt to earn someone's love and respect. After all, if even the man, who gave him life, did not love him, how this can be done by someone else?
And here life gives chance to this child to find a new family, to construct the life on the other template. And to whom does he go? To the people, who do not to care about the kindness and the concept of harmonious development. To the people, who put above all immaculate order, a strict timetable and ideally washed floor. To the people, who do not consider it as a crime to break into someone's house in the middle of the night, wake up the kids, scare them to death, break up a family and to leave the bleeding wounds in the hearts of all the participants of this sad story.
I believe that working with children can be supposed only for people, who have passed a serious psychological and pedagogical training and were able to prove their humanistic attitude to the child and a thin understanding of child`s psychology.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby Tor » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:25 pm

Such impudent interference in the family affairs is our common misfortune noways. And all who are not indifferent to the fate of our children have (according to their possibilities) to fight it. The purpose of children's services is destruction of the family. Firstly family foundations have been destroying through propaganda of permissiveness and debauchery, through the introduction in schools of sexual education.
Firstly, we have to stand against social workers within our family. The aims of our enemies (yes, that's the right word) are to undermine of family ties, to divide, to embroil the children and parents. On the contrary we must strengthen these ties, we must create between parents and children warm, trusting relationship, we must raise children in respectable to elders. Then our family will be very strong from the inside, and no social workers won't be able to destroy it. Children have to feel that their Mom and Dad are their best and most loyal friends and that they will always find understanding, support protection and love on their family. Children have to know that no school psychologists and others people are important for them, only their family is important. Also of course children have to be explained for what all these helpline for teenagers and questionnaire are aimed for. If it is very difficult we have to take away a child and transfer them to a different school, happily we still have choice.
Do not need to buck up, every time has it's own enemy. And now it is children's service. And we have to struggles with them. This attack must not break the family Pokrovsky, but to make it stronger, we all need to think about strengthening of our family.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby beeka » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:24 pm

Mr.Pain wrote:I have read all posts, but I cannot understand yet who is interested in taking Pokrovski children away!
The supervisor is not really good supervisor

Excuse me? not really good or VERY bad?! :x :x :x I can't see any sign of a supervisor there. :(
Whatever situations we are talking about from this posts, there is nothing that a supervisor should do.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby Tor » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:40 am

I agree supervisor and others social workers show thyself off as extremity unprofessional people.
And it's really surprising because they are public officials. And I think that they have to be selected very scrutinous. With a lot of different tests and exams. But we all see that from the very begging they behaved not like normal workers but as the next man.
And i think this is a big problem. They cannot work properly. And everything proves it. They even cannot create proper living conditions for these poor children.
But they are paid from taxes. They get their salary from money that were paid by parents. So, this is an irony, parents maintain people who had stolen their children.
This system must be changed. But it too advantageous for government to be changed. As I've already written this is all is the part of one big plan. Government wants familial ties to be teared apart.
And I hope one day people will wake up and will see what is going on. And will gather to fight the system. I hope it will be very soon. Because all these stolen children can't wait. Every spent minuet in this care centre is tragedy for them. Imagine what they fill. Taken away from home, from parents. All children. I'm absolutely sure that Pokrovskiy's case is not an isolated incident. Hard to imagine how many children all over the country were taken same way.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby beeka » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:43 am

So sad and stupid and unfair.
Have you ever imagine that you will wake up one day without your children in the house, without those little creatures who were making you so happy, without those cute little things who you were taking care so much?
I don't think any of us could imagine something like this. It is like when you have build a house and were living all together and suddenly somebody come to your place and ruin every single corner of that house. How would you feel? This situation is way more painful. Why do you need that house if there is nobody to care about, who you cared for so much?
There are strange moments in life when people are suffering so much, and it is so nice when others are helping with something, even with an advice. In such situations it is very difficult to act by yourself, your mind is totally burned out and you have no chance to take a right decision.
It is very nice that this forum gathered together people from all around the world to help withan advice.
To mi mind there is always something new to find, when reading the post again and again...
These days I read in a UK newspaper that Social workers are now taking children away from their families, who overfeed them! OBESE children have been taken from their families by social workers because of fears that overfeeding was wrecking their health.
The phenomenon is known as "killing with kindness" because the child craves the unhealthy food and a loving parent feels unable to say no.

Professionals say they have to make complex decisions in care proceedings and a family's gross over-eating can be one of the factors that leads to them losing their children. Why do they think they can take children away from they parents? because they are social workers? What the heck is going on with people? How can a good mother who gave birth to a kid just loose them one day? It's impossible to understand such actions and situations.
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