Why do children suffer.

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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby kipar » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:02 pm

Pokrovsky family is not the only example of authority's headstrongness.
Look what's happenin now in the world, children's rights are above all others rights. And under the specious pretext of such rights protection, children will be unhamperedly taken away.
All laws are based on the concepts that can be interpreted on their own way: well-being of a family, risks, if child is in the danger. Look reason for taken a child away may be based on low-income of parents, severe disease of parents, cramped living conditions, having many children, bad habits etc.
Can be absence of iPhone owned by a child counted as a problem? And who are the bad parents? Who live with children in two- or five-room apartment? Who can decide it?
I believe that the child can be taken away from the family only according to court's decision and only if the harm to the interests of the child can not be avoided by other means, and help that was given to child and parents did not give any results.
Child protection laws forbid the bad attitude toward the child, including physical punishment. Nevertheless, in certain cases, restrictions of the movement of the child and his actions is necessary to protect himself of herself from the threat. To do this, the parent is given the right to use physical force in a small amount, which does not cause a child physical, mental and emotional trauma and if possible, not strongly violates his rights and freedoms.
For example a child does not listen to adult and wants to run out into the roadway, of course, that an adult would intervene and use force in order to keep the child. And how it can be done other way? What is meant here is seconds to save a child.
And most importantly, that the law doesn’t protect non needy family when pre conceived social worker based on false information, may put the integrity of the family at risk. But human element is one of the most important factor.
Yes, we have to try to avoid human element as much as possible. Too many extremely important things depend on it. People's live depend on it. So it's impossible to risk such things as children happiness and strong family because of bad mood of governmental authorizes. Everything has to be double checked, every decision. And if any avoidance or suspect of prejudicial treatment occurs, such official has to be immediately pushed aside form his or her case. We all know that very often people with whip hand start using it with exceeding of the limits of authority. So in this case only trustful, tested persons can work with children and take any decisions. But this is so hard to do. So the selection of personnel must be very strong and thoughtful. And maybe this will help a little bit in such situation and will limit in the future as much as possible such terrible cases like case with Pokrovksiy's family from happening.
I hope that Pokrovksiy's children will be return home very soon and all guilty people will be punished, and will never be able to hold such position again.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby booka » Wed May 21, 2014 9:54 am

kipar wrote:Pokrovsky family is not the only example of authority's headstrongness.
Look what's happenin now in the world, children's rights are above all others rights. And under the specious pretext of such rights protection, children will be unhamperedly taken away.
All laws are based on the concepts that can be interpreted on their own way: well-being of a family, risks, if child is in the danger. Look reason for taken a child away may be based on low-income of parents, severe disease of parents, cramped living conditions, having many children, bad habits etc.
Can be absence of iPhone owned by a child counted as a problem? And who are the bad parents? Who live with children in two- or five-room apartment? Who can decide it?
I believe that the child can be taken away from the family only according to court's decision and only if the harm to the interests of the child can not be avoided by other means, and help that was given to child and parents did not give any results.
Child protection laws forbid the bad attitude toward the child, including physical punishment. Nevertheless, in certain cases, restrictions of the movement of the child and his actions is necessary to protect himself of herself from the threat. To do this, the parent is given the right to use physical force in a small amount, which does not cause a child physical, mental and emotional trauma and if possible, not strongly violates his rights and freedoms.
For example a child does not listen to adult and wants to run out into the roadway, of course, that an adult would intervene and use force in order to keep the child. And how it can be done other way? What is meant here is seconds to save a child.
And most importantly, that the law doesn’t protect non needy family when pre conceived social worker based on false information, may put the integrity of the family at risk. But human element is one of the most important factor.
Yes, we have to try to avoid human element as much as possible. Too many extremely important things depend on it. People's live depend on it. So it's impossible to risk such things as children happiness and strong family because of bad mood of governmental authorizes. Everything has to be double checked, every decision. And if any avoidance or suspect of prejudicial treatment occurs, such official has to be immediately pushed aside form his or her case. We all know that very often people with whip hand start using it with exceeding of the limits of authority. So in this case only trustful, tested persons can work with children and take any decisions. But this is so hard to do. So the selection of personnel must be very strong and thoughtful. And maybe this will help a little bit in such situation and will limit in the future as much as possible such terrible cases like case with Pokrovksiy's family from happening.
I hope that Pokrovksiy's children will be return home very soon and all guilty people will be punished, and will never be able to hold such position again.

I totally agree with this post.
Pokrovski famili is not the only one family whose kids were taken away and it is not the last one. I try to read and watch video on this subject and can't understand why is it happening and does it take so much time to give them children back!? I think they did everything possible to get them back and paid enough for it.Also, even if they would be guilty for at least 1% , they paid enough, I am pretty sure!!!
Being a parent means a lot of responsability and from my own point of view this family has enough responsability to grow up their own children and to give them education and share love like in a really family, not in another one. How can they take such decisions? It is not fair! OK, maybe they did something wrong...but did you think about them as about people who came from another country, and maybe doesn't ynderstant this mentality and this law. It might be absolutely new for them and I think they should get another chance.
Why are people so mean and cruel? Who can take such decisions and take away children from their biological parents??? It is so freaking weird!!! How can this children feel better in another families? Simply crazy!
I can't believe it can happen in my country, a country I believed in and a country I was so proud of!
Dear POkrovski family, I hope, I believe and I pray for you! I know for sure that there will be one day you will live again together with your babies and let the social workers feel guilty for it. Let them be sued by Lord! Do not be peased on them because such people doesn't cost a think! Lord sees everything and have His own plans on you, guys!
God bless you and your family!
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby pokrov » Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:27 pm

It has been 4 years, as our children were expelled from us parents. For safety reasons, children. At this time, I can not write any information.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby pokrov » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:27 pm

4.5 years have passed since the children were taken away from the family.
I has returned the children. The children were returned in a terrible condition, mental, psychological, lag in education. During the time that children in foster care, children were given drugs that are contraindicated for use for children and pregnant women. At the moment the children are going to improve.
Return of children can be compared to a miracle. Thanks to everyone who helped out of a pure heart to return children. Thanks to all who wrote comments in support of children.
I can not write about my situation and about these social services. I can not take any action against these services. Since, the staff of these services can again fabricate more serious charges, and then I could lose my children forever.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby pokrov » Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:39 pm

It is already 5 years passed by, since our kids were taken away from us.
Many people are asking about kids and how is the situation right now?
I have almost stopped working with my religious movement. Fictious complaints do not reach ACS anymore. I do not see to write any judgements about ACS and SCO anymore, since presently workers of those organizations is not against me anymore.
Right now, I am very seriously taking care of my children, working on their problems that they got during those four years, when they were not with their family.
Since I got my children back, their health is fully back on its normal. Right now, they do not go to any specialists anymore and do not take any medications, as they did before during those 4 years.
Their school studies are great, they are in their regular classes as they are supposed to be. When they were away, they were put in special classes as kids with disabilities. After I got them out, they are now in their honor classes and they are receiving their A's.
For more than one year, we live in 1 bedroom apartment that we rent. We live together in one room and the roommate lives in another room.
Kids are very happy!!!
When I ask them, if they wish to visit to their foster family- they look at me with scare and answer, no. When I ask them, do you want me to call to caseworker - they do not want to talk on that topic.
Unfortunately, I - alone cannot stop this corruption in these kind of organizations. However, I and other people are praying to God so that corruption in these organizations will be stopped forever and with the God's help it will be stopped forever.
God helped me to return my kids.
God protected me and helped me to get rid of the spying from ACS and SCO workers against me.
God helped me to bring kids back to normal- health wise, physically, mentally and school wise.
I believe and I know that God will help us all to stop all of these crimes against other children.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby pokrov » Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:54 pm

It took 5.5 years from the moment the child was taken away from our family.

Over the last 6 months of life, was no changes in the our family.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby pokrov » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:13 pm

It has been 6 years since our children were withdrawn. 2 years as the children returned and living with us. In our lives, there was not any major changes. The children are happy that they live with us, we are fine with health and education they are good at. We still live in the same room the last 2 years. About past that I would not even want to remember. Just think of those children who have been in place for our children and many of them will not be able to go back home.
We continue to pray for these children and their parents every day and encourage others to pray, no matter how you faith and religion. In our situation, we can not any more to help these children. God help these children, stop their pain and sufering.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby pokrov » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:33 pm

It's been almost 3 years since I wrote the last message on this forum. But in general, five years have passed since I stopped putting any information on the forum exposing the Administration for Children's Services (ACS).
I will begin to continue writing about everything that I couldn't write earlier and during these five years. I will tell about other facts that were silent and what happened in the last three years. I will also tell you why I started writing again on the forum and why I could not write about many things before. Maybe I will not completely describe some events and facts, as there are reasons for this. But I will gradually describe many basic and significant facts in this section of the forum.
In recent years, many letters have come to me with similar and worse stories like mine, but I will not retell them and publish them. I will write only about my history and the only facts that I can prove anywhere and at any time. Whatever accuse me of lying or of making stuff up. I will describe what happened to me and my children, what I saw and in which I took a direct part, to express my opinion and my thoughts.
If you have your own similar story, you can feel free to write it yourself on this forum. This forum is in my property, I promise you that no one will know your data, nor your email from which you registered on this forum, your IP, nor your correspondence with other forum visitors, this correspondence is not available even to me as the administrator of this forum. I know that there are thousands of such stories as mine, it's just that many people are afraid to write them because they can be persecuted and get into a similar situation like me and my children.
In the near future, I do not plan to close this forum. This forum is designed for long existence and hosting paid for a long time to come. If for some reason this site and forum are closed, it will not be according to my desire. This closure can only be from persons for whom it is not desirable to see on the Internet information exposing them and the entire corrupt system, as well as crimes that are committed under the protection of the law. I think that there will be attempts to close this forum, as before there were already hacker attacks. Once all the information on the server was destroyed. But thanks to the copies that were preserved, all the information was restored.
The server on which this site is located on the territory of the United States. I think that this is a country of democracy and publicity. And the server and the sites located on it and the domains themselves can not be closed by anyone, as soon as decided by the court. By court decision, this site cannot be closed, since this forum contains only true information and not any false information. If all the same, this forum will be closed, it will be an indication that corruption is much higher than I describe here. I hope that the corruption is not so great that the corrupt employees would have the opportunity to close information on the Internet.
I am not looking for any benefits from the material posted on this forum. All information supplied by me on this forum. First of all, it is intended to ensure that forum visitors know the truth about many things and crimes that occur, under the guise of helping children. It is also worth the goal, to convey to many families in what situation they and their children may be. Also, the main task, what would this material written by me, as well as written from other visitors to the forum. There became a drop in such information located on the Internet that I had and attracted the attention of politicians and other people who can change the corrupt system itself. What would these people find the strength and capabilities and completely change the corruption system that destroys thousands of children's and adult lives. If any person changes this corruption system, then his name can be inscribed in American history in gold letters along with the names: Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, John Kennedy I believe that such a person (people) can be found who will truly help children and their parents. This conveyor will stop fabricating false affairs and taking children from their parents.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby pokrov » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:45 pm

Before continuing the narrative of my story. I will write a little about the attitude of workers with ACS to the law itself and the representative of the law to the judge.
In my notion of a judge, this is the law, and we all, regardless of our position, must respect the court and fully comply with any court decision. Whether we want it or not, whether we like the judge and his decisions or not.
When I had children in a foster family and I attended the courts, I saw how social workers attitude the courts themselves and the judge. A small example. If you respect any person or congregation or court, you try to look better. Many lawyers dress in a suit with a white shirt and tie. What I also did when visiting the court. Many workers with ACS, came to the court in what they go to work every day, it could be some kind of sweater or an old shirt. Once a worker came to the court in sneakers and jeans, it seemed that he came to some kind of show.
I understand body language, facial expressions, behavior when a person speaks. For many workers with ACS, when they spoke in court, I saw that for them the trial was an ordinary show in which they felt equal to the judge and even sometimes higher. They could safely swear false information under oath. They could calmly say why they did not fulfill the past instructions of the judge without giving due reasons. When the judge spoke, they could easily interrupt him. For example. When the judge demanded that the children be returned and how to speed up the return process and what the workers of the ACS should do. During her three-minute speech, one worker with ACS interrupted her speech in a rude manner, in an elevated tone 4 times. For me, it was a shock when I saw such that the judge’s words were not considered at all, and they put their opinion above the judge’s decision.
When the trial ended, the workers with ACS left the courtroom, as from some kind of show, they sometimes laughed, joked at what was said at the trial, did not even pay attention to my presence. I'm not talking about the fact that often, they did not comply with the decision of the court at all. One of many examples. After two years of finding my children in a foster family. The judge instructed the employees with ACS to help me with obtaining urban housing, so that when I returned the children, the children could live in a normal apartment, and not in the same room I was renting at that time. After the trial a couple of days later, I brought to my social worker all the documents that should be in order to queue for a city apartment. She had to do this. Six months later, at the next trial, when the judge asked her how the process was going on with the provision of housing for me and my children. The social worker simply said that she had not yet begun to do this. The judge demanded from her what she would do. To which, in the future, the social worker leading my case sent me to another office of her organization to another social worker (far away from herself), in which I re-gave all the documents. And on this again everything was in the starting place. I called the new office several times, to find out in which process my affairs in a city apartment, but I never received a clear explanation. In the new office, I was not even put on a waiting list for a city apartment. At the next hearing, the judge raised this question again, but from the side of the workers with ACS, there were no effective answers and movements in this direction. After 2 years, when I took the children away, no one from the social worker even said anything about the apartment or offered it.
Later, when I took the children, I myself began to queue for a city apartment. For five years, my turn did not reach, and all this time I and my children lived in this one room.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby Fighter for justice » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:02 pm

I have known Nikolai Pokrovski for several years. Our children often play together in the playground, meet in the library, and communicate on the Internet. Nikolai is an excellent father who loves his children and invests in the education of his children to the maximum. If there was a prize the best father in the world, then I gave this award to Nikolai.
The fact that he is haunted by the ACS is visible, even to a new person who knows the whole situation. That the ACS is a corrupt organization, many people know about it. Some are afraid to talk about it because they can be lost their children like Nikolai Pokrovski. Others think that this does not concern them, and they think that it is better to stand aside and not get involved in it.
The other day I learned new events from the life of the family of Nikolai. I was amazed at what was happening. I will not write about it, I think this is the right of Nikolai to write about it, if he deems it necessary. But what kind of persecution is happening right now in his direction is just awful, what workers with ACS are doing is comparable to the worst crimes in the first place against children. I wish Nikolai and his children was quickly out of this situation. And I think about all the events taking place with your family, you should definitely write on this forum. What would many have taken off rose-colored glasses in which they see the ACS.
I think the workers from the ACS also read this forum because Nikolai wrote that they know about this site. If you're the workers reading this message, then you know that what you're doing is first of all, a shame for you. By your actions you show how low you're lowered, that money and your careers come first. You have no conscience and honor. What you do, you should be judged for this and put in jail so that others would not repeat your crimes. Know that you are killing innocent children with your actions. SHAME ACS.
The worst thing is that in such a situation, you cannot protect your children. What Nikolai did in this situation is a brave and decisive action, which not everyone will go to. I fully support for Nikolai, in his place, I would have done the same. This is all for the sake of protecting your children. It is a pity that in such a great country like America, there is no way to protect their children from corrupt child protection organizations.
I think the ACS will continue to pursue you, it is their tactic to remove everyone who can prevent them from receiving billions of dollars from the state. In the statistics cited by Nikolai, I think most of the children are in foster care on trumped-up and rigged cases by the ACS.
With my family, I will always be with you Nikolai and with your children, I support you in all respects. Well done for you, you're a hero, you are a real patriot who thinks not only about his children, but you also think about the happiness of other children.
I will also sign the petition when it is ready and put on the White House website. I will also call on all my relatives, friends and acquaintances so that they would also sign a petition and pass on their chains to other relatives and friends.
You, Nikolai, is doing everything right, although you and your children suffer for it. Someone must begin to fight this corruption hydra. America is a country of freedom and democracy, and we should do it like this, removing all dirt and all the stench from our system. We are Americans and immigrants, this is our country and our home, so we will keep it clean and safe so that our children live in this house happily and calmly.
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