Why do children suffer.

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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby kipar » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:02 pm

Pokrovsky family is not the only example of authority's headstrongness.
Look what's happenin now in the world, children's rights are above all others rights. And under the specious pretext of such rights protection, children will be unhamperedly taken away.
All laws are based on the concepts that can be interpreted on their own way: well-being of a family, risks, if child is in the danger. Look reason for taken a child away may be based on low-income of parents, severe disease of parents, cramped living conditions, having many children, bad habits etc.
Can be absence of iPhone owned by a child counted as a problem? And who are the bad parents? Who live with children in two- or five-room apartment? Who can decide it?
I believe that the child can be taken away from the family only according to court's decision and only if the harm to the interests of the child can not be avoided by other means, and help that was given to child and parents did not give any results.
Child protection laws forbid the bad attitude toward the child, including physical punishment. Nevertheless, in certain cases, restrictions of the movement of the child and his actions is necessary to protect himself of herself from the threat. To do this, the parent is given the right to use physical force in a small amount, which does not cause a child physical, mental and emotional trauma and if possible, not strongly violates his rights and freedoms.
For example a child does not listen to adult and wants to run out into the roadway, of course, that an adult would intervene and use force in order to keep the child. And how it can be done other way? What is meant here is seconds to save a child.
And most importantly, that the law doesn’t protect non needy family when pre conceived social worker based on false information, may put the integrity of the family at risk. But human element is one of the most important factor.
Yes, we have to try to avoid human element as much as possible. Too many extremely important things depend on it. People's live depend on it. So it's impossible to risk such things as children happiness and strong family because of bad mood of governmental authorizes. Everything has to be double checked, every decision. And if any avoidance or suspect of prejudicial treatment occurs, such official has to be immediately pushed aside form his or her case. We all know that very often people with whip hand start using it with exceeding of the limits of authority. So in this case only trustful, tested persons can work with children and take any decisions. But this is so hard to do. So the selection of personnel must be very strong and thoughtful. And maybe this will help a little bit in such situation and will limit in the future as much as possible such terrible cases like case with Pokrovksiy's family from happening.
I hope that Pokrovksiy's children will be return home very soon and all guilty people will be punished, and will never be able to hold such position again.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby booka » Wed May 21, 2014 9:54 am

kipar wrote:Pokrovsky family is not the only example of authority's headstrongness.
Look what's happenin now in the world, children's rights are above all others rights. And under the specious pretext of such rights protection, children will be unhamperedly taken away.
All laws are based on the concepts that can be interpreted on their own way: well-being of a family, risks, if child is in the danger. Look reason for taken a child away may be based on low-income of parents, severe disease of parents, cramped living conditions, having many children, bad habits etc.
Can be absence of iPhone owned by a child counted as a problem? And who are the bad parents? Who live with children in two- or five-room apartment? Who can decide it?
I believe that the child can be taken away from the family only according to court's decision and only if the harm to the interests of the child can not be avoided by other means, and help that was given to child and parents did not give any results.
Child protection laws forbid the bad attitude toward the child, including physical punishment. Nevertheless, in certain cases, restrictions of the movement of the child and his actions is necessary to protect himself of herself from the threat. To do this, the parent is given the right to use physical force in a small amount, which does not cause a child physical, mental and emotional trauma and if possible, not strongly violates his rights and freedoms.
For example a child does not listen to adult and wants to run out into the roadway, of course, that an adult would intervene and use force in order to keep the child. And how it can be done other way? What is meant here is seconds to save a child.
And most importantly, that the law doesn’t protect non needy family when pre conceived social worker based on false information, may put the integrity of the family at risk. But human element is one of the most important factor.
Yes, we have to try to avoid human element as much as possible. Too many extremely important things depend on it. People's live depend on it. So it's impossible to risk such things as children happiness and strong family because of bad mood of governmental authorizes. Everything has to be double checked, every decision. And if any avoidance or suspect of prejudicial treatment occurs, such official has to be immediately pushed aside form his or her case. We all know that very often people with whip hand start using it with exceeding of the limits of authority. So in this case only trustful, tested persons can work with children and take any decisions. But this is so hard to do. So the selection of personnel must be very strong and thoughtful. And maybe this will help a little bit in such situation and will limit in the future as much as possible such terrible cases like case with Pokrovksiy's family from happening.
I hope that Pokrovksiy's children will be return home very soon and all guilty people will be punished, and will never be able to hold such position again.

I totally agree with this post.
Pokrovski famili is not the only one family whose kids were taken away and it is not the last one. I try to read and watch video on this subject and can't understand why is it happening and does it take so much time to give them children back!? I think they did everything possible to get them back and paid enough for it.Also, even if they would be guilty for at least 1% , they paid enough, I am pretty sure!!!
Being a parent means a lot of responsability and from my own point of view this family has enough responsability to grow up their own children and to give them education and share love like in a really family, not in another one. How can they take such decisions? It is not fair! OK, maybe they did something wrong...but did you think about them as about people who came from another country, and maybe doesn't ynderstant this mentality and this law. It might be absolutely new for them and I think they should get another chance.
Why are people so mean and cruel? Who can take such decisions and take away children from their biological parents??? It is so freaking weird!!! How can this children feel better in another families? Simply crazy!
I can't believe it can happen in my country, a country I believed in and a country I was so proud of!
Dear POkrovski family, I hope, I believe and I pray for you! I know for sure that there will be one day you will live again together with your babies and let the social workers feel guilty for it. Let them be sued by Lord! Do not be peased on them because such people doesn't cost a think! Lord sees everything and have His own plans on you, guys!
God bless you and your family!
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby pokrov » Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:27 pm

It has been 4 years, as our children were expelled from us parents. For safety reasons, children. At this time, I can not write any information.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby pokrov » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:27 pm

4.5 years have passed since the children were taken away from the family.
I has returned the children. The children were returned in a terrible condition, mental, psychological, lag in education. During the time that children in foster care, children were given drugs that are contraindicated for use for children and pregnant women. At the moment the children are going to improve.
Return of children can be compared to a miracle. Thanks to everyone who helped out of a pure heart to return children. Thanks to all who wrote comments in support of children.
I can not write about my situation and about these social services. I can not take any action against these services. Since, the staff of these services can again fabricate more serious charges, and then I could lose my children forever.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby pokrov » Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:39 pm

It is already 5 years passed by, since our kids were taken away from us.
Many people are asking about kids and how is the situation right now?
I have almost stopped working with my religious movement. Fictious complaints do not reach ACS anymore. I do not see to write any judgements about ACS and SCO anymore, since presently workers of those organizations is not against me anymore.
Right now, I am very seriously taking care of my children, working on their problems that they got during those four years, when they were not with their family.
Since I got my children back, their health is fully back on its normal. Right now, they do not go to any specialists anymore and do not take any medications, as they did before during those 4 years.
Their school studies are great, they are in their regular classes as they are supposed to be. When they were away, they were put in special classes as kids with disabilities. After I got them out, they are now in their honor classes and they are receiving their A's.
For more than one year, we live in 1 bedroom apartment that we rent. We live together in one room and the roommate lives in another room.
Kids are very happy!!!
When I ask them, if they wish to visit to their foster family- they look at me with scare and answer, no. When I ask them, do you want me to call to caseworker - they do not want to talk on that topic.
Unfortunately, I - alone cannot stop this corruption in these kind of organizations. However, I and other people are praying to God so that corruption in these organizations will be stopped forever and with the God's help it will be stopped forever.
God helped me to return my kids.
God protected me and helped me to get rid of the spying from ACS and SCO workers against me.
God helped me to bring kids back to normal- health wise, physically, mentally and school wise.
I believe and I know that God will help us all to stop all of these crimes against other children.
There are many religions- but God is one! Choose the right way Pokrov!
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby pokrov » Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:54 pm

It took 5.5 years from the moment the child was taken away from our family.

Over the last 6 months of life, was no changes in the our family.
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Re: Why do children suffer.

Postby pokrov » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:13 pm

It has been 6 years since our children were withdrawn. 2 years as the children returned and living with us. In our lives, there was not any major changes. The children are happy that they live with us, we are fine with health and education they are good at. We still live in the same room the last 2 years. About past that I would not even want to remember. Just think of those children who have been in place for our children and many of them will not be able to go back home.
We continue to pray for these children and their parents every day and encourage others to pray, no matter how you faith and religion. In our situation, we can not any more to help these children. God help these children, stop their pain and sufering.
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